Pragmatic 79: Diluted My Metric Goodness

24 March, 2017


The history of measurements has a few surprises. Casey Liss joins John to discuss once and for all Metric and Imperial measurements.

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Welcome to pragmatic the discussion to clean the practical application of technology by exploring real-world trade-offs of our great ideas are transponder products and services that can change our lives nothing is as simple as John did you join my special guest Mr Casey list casing hello how are you Sir I am I am doing well but how are you I'm totally awesome I were actually recording is in the middle of the day my time which is I was about just because you are in the future as far as I'm concerned so it is what Wednesday where you are yes it is it is Wednesday morning and it is at 1015 in the morning so yes are in time zones me and how they work carefully the world was flat nevermind you yell is not as not to arm so what are things of bobbin people been asking for me to talk about are on the sofa for quite some time are is metric and imperial loss of Dodge the subject and is arm you because I was in some shows a neuron and some I thought it might be a nice topic to one sort of fun yes have a habitable chat about metric dress imperial so what if the recently key and but the problem is there is no conversation because it is imperial and those other silly units yes indeed the star coming out swing and I can okay so am I I guess I was solicitor start with what specifically I mean I guess until about four things and specifically on talk about Nassar length measurements temperature measurements weight measurements and time and yes I through time and that is that you know you'll see why it makes me so angry later so the thing with metric is that metric was originally are the concept demonstrated by some guy called Gabriel Mouton he was a vigourous and false church in Lyon in France and that was back in 1670 and a proposal was a decimal system of metric Gaelic base 10 in the idea is 11 level of unit scale to the next can be achieved by shifting the decimal point and you don't do any collocated mass in your head because he likes doing maths in your head right if you had taken stuff calculates these days are back then I didn't have Abacus as they had so you always do so in the metric garment cycle is start with the Imperial things are 1 foot contains 12 inches so to get to 2 feet arm you can modify the 12 x 2 to get 24 inches are whereas you are in the metric year if it was 1 m and 1 m you to say well that's 100 cm as a 200 cm R or 1.1 m is 110 cm ownership the decimal point fill in the zeros and that set you don't remember your two times table anymore which I guess is good lazy and a bit of both your size must be quicker and I think was it was messy arm it was during the French Revolution hours are about not 1790 arm there National Assembly of France requested the Academy of sciences there to create a new standard that was simple and scientific year anyway and am metre actually is as I see the French derivation of Greek word which is met from meaning a measure which really doesn't tell you anything might know that yes, we're today so at eight a measure of a measure of what the nevermind arm and in the fine wonderful little foibles French versus the rest of his arrest warrant on the United States spelt ME TER arm is in a metre arm whereas are in France at semi TRE ends i.e. while not clear on is whether or not that's the same in UK establish the same stress we would we write any TRE that some it was just me because the spellchecker on like pages all word order using always flags at night at not settle North Americans delivered squarely line idea half Australia into American did Americans do Australians really understand how to use English language because plus I have several Australian friends and I will never quite understand how one makes the leap from McDonald's to markets like that even happen hiding our breakfast of is a stretch but I can get behind it but Marcus is just out of the field well arm is Mickey D's is that suppose that is all I can do that I can do that and we did is now guessing that Mac is yeah you're right I just got me I was asked to go no arm I think that Mick McDonald's is this McDonald's struggling these days I hear rumours even those they then they flip-flop the doomed as often as ours I'd say in any and does never seem to be real but are real and in a poke fun at out at Australians to be told our everyone I've known every American of unknowns who was gone to Australia is pretty much come home to Americans that you I'm gonna move their one-day sale II come out with my with Mayo guns blazing just fruitfully in a team and a bit better but I'd love to get down to Australia one day the primacy of time travel to get there and it's excellent 300 years but I'd you want Once upon a time you just been spoiled because you can fly within your own country and within a few hours pretty much anywhere and no psych that's just you and your closer to you to Europe right so you can jump a planer at USB Europe in an online it's actually not much further to London than it is to say San Francisco it is written as a London fisherman it's not that different yet exactly whereas on I'm sort of stuck right because wherever we go it's a long way write-up around me I mean it's pretty normal and I love it but she is innocent other animals kill you that's the thing with Australia really everything around you is pretty much intent on murdering yield probably not the people but everything else that's a stereotypical lake in the Donegan American hello our vision of Australia is a yes the scorpions of the size of car as the spiders of the size of houses and pretty much everything including the koalas and the kangaroos are intent on monitoring koalas are awfully cute until they wake up and then I have his big razor clause and they tend near the strip off of you and you like I don't want Hannah back money don't want any more arm and yet the other thing is that people think that kangaroos hop down the main street arm or in an economy lives and then you think that such a ridiculous stereotype and then literally three days ago I'm driving up blood to box my house has a kangaroo millwright are you about that arm about that I'm taking other detective is this your terrible leases that have nothing to do as well try to discuss I believe is it's tangentially related okay arm but anyhow okay that's fine it's all good arm the thing I found really fascinating actually not a fascinating ridiculous about the definition of what 1 m was B is that they figured this is their rationale that 1 m was supposed to be 1/10000000 of the distance from the North Pole to the equator along the meridian intersected with Dunkirk in France and Barcelona in Spain who the heck came up with that is an idea emerged only really can you imagine walking out and measuring it and then get to the end and thinking all that was at 1000 158 million to 27 October 26 that's mannered yeti and and of the obvious thing is they got it wrong they measured the light of course so that they actually didn't correctly account for the curvature of the planet as the world is not a perfect sphere and I think at the time I didn't appreciate that an eye-popping discounted step something on a bit so arm the thing though is that the measurement of what what actual distance is 1 m has remained 1 m for the past 215 years which is quite good I guess but know they're supposed to be simple but a eyesight arm but every other key you need to be derived from the metre so I come they said every other thing so grams were based on a cube of 0.01 m which is 1 cm or 10 mm just shifty decimal point are any fill up with water in the NASA gram and technically does refer to the cubic decimetre of water but the thing was the water was measured at the temperature of melting ice initially are but you during the live first half or so of the 20 century arm 1 kg of purest water at its highest density was found to be a 4C not zero so even that was not quite right initially and gone why was not anyway so because and because of vinyl liquid determined by the purity of it they learn later anisotropic composition they nailed like heavy water like it's got deuterium on or tritium and it arm that means it's heavier water so you then they said well will take a water sample at Vienna because like thing is pretty or something on a rack and a standard mean ocean water which is pure distilled with an isotropic composition that was naturally found that part of the ocean okay you know it's great is that the more you dig into this the more insane it sounds and how arm so silly 99 French made official arm and they made of compulsory law by 1840 and but in 1875 this is where things get interesting arm because 1875 there was likely call the convention of the metre and was signed by 17 countries including drumroll the United States people I know right people don't think that but it's true so by 1900 there were 35 nations officially adopted the metric system not the United States in 1960 the general conference on weights and measures that I was laughing and extended the simplified convention to include things like metre kilogram second NPR for electric current Calvin after thermodynamic temperature the mole and the Kandel offer luminous intensity and brightness of light night and they'll referred all these as the SI units system Internationale the unions and initials a letter we all got taught like were going through school not white sugar bowl I wasn't sure you were doing when you did your arm when you're studying the right SI units you as I was like 1960 but the interesting fact it was buried in all of that was that since 1893 arm all of the nonmetric units in the United States of America were actually defined in terms of metric units and people just didn't realise it so an inch was defined based on how many fractions of a metre it was so the base unit was actually I know I did not know that is crazy and that settled in an American now now but I'm back in Venice arm was researching this and on that was one thing I didn't know either silent that a few weeks ago but never mind mine so they go but still arm imperial distance such as nous nous-USA Martin but arm the thing is that a lot of the the terminology came across from the old country to the UK so it gets a little bit confusing where it started and so there is no questionstill using a billion necessary or start there so right to yards and miles and there have been different definitions of a mile from countries all history going back as far as the Ottoman Empire Saxons Hungarians Portuguese Russians Croatians German.Scottish Welsh Irish old English and the English statute mile all have different definitions of how long a mile is which is really frustrating but anyway they finally agreed internationally and that's the funny part in 1959 that was when I finally rearm agreed that 1609 m or 354,000,003 54 mil metres long would evenly contain 1760 yards which is 5280 380 feet you could say exactly how we feel it is you and I would have to do you know the mental mouth to get yards out of it but I 5280 B1 and grade score pretty jealous that you set right because you gotta do that calculation a few times it just becomes like a timetable so insulated monument no big deal thing is there is also non-core miles which are a totally different measure wedged that really rocked my world when I was in grade school Amelia nominal or perhaps even high school whenever not all males entered my worldview when in a row and I realise that our land mile was apparently not the same rate as the Statue of Liberty official term for a day yesterday asked a statue mail is not seems not a mile in their different enough to be annoying but not different enough to be considerably different yet exactly and I started digging into nautical miles on my arm and distill my head in honest on a dry line so that the US statue modest on that one for example has been retained for land surveying arm since about post-1959 and despite the metric Metra site metric Kaiser courts rugged metric isolation station now that you're on your own and I want chair out and either anyway and most the world in the US and UK still retain the mile as their standard unit of measurement for large scales so that's okay are but even more annoying though is that in some US states they'll define a statute mile conversion to use for land surveys and legislated but someday legislated also whether or not statute multiplies depends on what stage in that might given that's arm the semi definition was very different countries are quickly just about the UK mile and is mainly because that's where it all started least the most predominant usage in a world that remains came from that and it was originally none 1593 by Guy Queen Elizabeth and this is where we have to talk about Furlong's Casey organising that that semi is a uniquely UK thing Leone I know it's unit of measure but that is not something I ever really here in the states that that strikes me as a uniquely British thing up just a honest question just curious are just curious arm do you follow horse racing at all now arm there used to be a a lake second authority of horseracing track about an hour east of Morelia than I did go and casually bet on horses a couple of times just as like a fun diversion arm by debate outside of that I never ever ever pay attention to it there is the triple Crown in the United States which is a Kentucky Derby into other want a weakness send either of the other owners, maybe our anyway doesn't really matter arm that that even for people like myself who pays your attention horseracing that typically gets at least a little bit of your traditional media coverage particularly if the seam horses wine two of the three and the in the final one is coming up because that's the that the Genesis of the book or that the meaning triple Crown with a when three of the is like touching a horse races and so if you get help Secretariat or whoever is in that the horse that is as it has once you are the three and that the last one is coming up people typically pay attention and adding and if people are from the Kentucky area like sometimes you'll see a Kentucky Derby party even in an Virginia state which I live if you or somebody like a friend of mine his family is from Kentucky and so he was terribly Kentucky Derby party every year just on account of his heritage by Derby as a day do you recognise relying as as being somehow loosely associated with that but I couldn't see the specifics okay Strayer our equivalent of that other similar Kentucky Derby BVR the Melbourne cup and they call it the race that stops the nation as like arm I always quite enjoy Melbourne cup because as an excuse to get some work done because everyone else in the office after not bugging any more excellent tiger smoker but anyway yes so that the reason I brought up is because as you say yes Furlong is actually still used in horseracing arm as is a measurement and is like okay that's that's kinda weird but anyhow the Furlong has 40 poles arm 40 poles okay a poles a unit of measure right and pole is 16 1/2 feet long and obviously and how can I be hourly obviously in a course that becomes divisible arm into an deaf definable by miles in the arsenal and stuff right so the good God so if you want to do that sort of Matthew say arm films are 660 feet long to 20 yards or 3 feet to 3 feet yard you assume 25.4 mm to an inch 12 interest or foot one Furlong is 201.168 m and hence 5 furlongs at about 1 km anyway they go underfoot measurement just one last thing about foot measurement of the 13th century was the North German foot as opposed to the South Geoffrey foot I guess I don't know and then they was that there was a slightly shortened arm rod length that was 15 of the old feet but it was upgraded to the 60 1/2 new feet as dislike, God anyway so not notify the film was abolished in the UK but oddly it still used around the world so go for horseracing go figure right I think the biggest stars tiger heavy that was a really bad joke amassed now so bad like I did not know a job that I give you zero for I did I was I was debating with myself whether or not I really wanted to get into you are get into a kilometre requirement reverses our mile argument and I was deciding I don't think it's worth and I did not give that you're credited to my apology typology it was a horrible joke and that's fine it's okay Imperial site I talk briefly about the derivation of other of a gram I found that to be so tenuous but is even more tenuous okay as Imperial mass of employment pounds now so 16 ounces and a pound and the US actually defined the pound and I say finally they did because there are a whole bunch of attempts prior to 1894 but it was a 94 when I actually said that it was only 2.20462234 to 1 kg amassed a river that is derived directly from something that I'm telling a mess this one up and it's pronounced the avid avid diploma pound doesn't sound English at all but apparently it was converting out of England but was called the woollen pound which I also don't get why and I say we went through a whole bunch of these pound definitions it is like the Troy pound the tower pound merchant pound and oddly there was one called the metric pound that is in fact not metric mind is okay is an confusing all but none of those survived and the avid diploma pound has the longest that although Troy pound is actually still use the precious metals arm so when they weighing out my gold platinum site that the sometimes older quite that in Troy pounds site and have my own on our what else to say about about pounds except that that's just man are pounds we're great because I feel like for most reasonable things you would want a measure of the what I would call weight of which I know this guy comes into Lake are heard really nerdy conversation of of wheat versus mouse in and are not intending to go there a bite arm forever in the average wheat so a pound I feel it is a pretty neat unit of measure in and of itself arm an average American arm and an average adult male will weigh between hundred and 50 and 200 there may be an American wheeze to 50 part but anyway arm ahead average adult male way between hundred 52 and average coral will be between 2000 4000 arm I do know an average serving of our McDonald's/markers is probably 15 not really are made is eight you come to the amount arm so and it is a pound is a pretty decent unit of measure in and of itself that the police were pound falls down is converting it anything else in the world you are minute rates innovation abuser freezing to anything else within the imperial system like you said 16 ounces to a pound I like The time I need to remember that I forget arm and then there is overcome by the conversions that I'm drawn a blank on that are equally just completely ridiculous and so this is why most Americans when they talk about VR the the tubes that you can talk to you or your rights or the robot in your phone that you can speak with them trying to use the official terms here so not trigger any of them in a lot of the times in American so you gotta get this because you can shout out a conversion you know hey lady in the cylinder how many ounces in a pound already know how many ounces 24th 4 pounds whatever the case may be an end it's partly because weights and and and volume measures are ourselves bananas in America that that's such a compelling selling point for these cylinders Antarctica airstream is like one problem what one problem because of that the unit conversions makes this product is so much more useful and and and almost a requirement set is good point and I yam the thing about with weights when you say before about that wet units of arm measure like pure habitable way so for example you said hundred 5200 on average Americans are funny as I see you said they are jokingly made to 50 but the thing is that Australia has arm as much of an obesity problem I just like to add as North America does statistically so arm year we would we like way to much fast food here as well is cover problem but never mind another conversation and other videos use as you stone Lake has established things you still only arm 14 stone are relegated we don't predominantly anymore we've we've got when when I brought in arm the metric system hearing them in the late sale late 50s early 60s we went away from stone but if you bought a unit the old an old traditional spring and I'll scale that she was down you and you would see on the inner track that there would be this thing called stone and I look at that nonwhites are okay to have a stones are promised things that are thinner lady writer the UK a measurement of of weight but now we typically have a news that although you can still most scales of you by the traditional ones will also have so you typically would measures often coalesce so yet sub rosa be like gum 72 arm hundred kilograms and that might be considered 100 kg dependent out or you are in to all those other caveats picture shorter and better and cars knowledgeable and free so you said the 3000 4000 so frosty I would say about the 1/2 to 2 times so you get to town to be looking at a four-wheel-drive aura or a big big pickup truck were used when a caller are whereas at one time zones promotes the upper limit for a compact car or a yarn may be mid-size car mid-size family, I had a car once it was under a town it was I called a silver bullet it was actually a day when it isn't you know that once is a very limited production run and they we don't exist anymore so does matter this thing was tiny and was very cold day were yes I still got that as we did we did have our mooring and believe that we certainly have had they will at some point arm and they were not particularly well regarded around a mirror and I might like I was special insofar as when I ran it through the arm the Safety rating eight-day came out with one start at five which was not godly not good arm I called the silver bullet because it struggled to keep up at hundred 10, is now which is 60 miles an hour there about our struggle loudly and if there is a headwind it really struck so it was it was a silver bullet because it wasn't bullet was the joke anyway arm of mine I got a car thickness and alcohol are jazz salamander to Lego earlier that's the fit to us I believe the Honda fit yes it is seen car is different and that is esotropia and it is a great car and@i.e. it is very reliable it is way overdue for a service and still running is that my measure of yes it's good it's good as the oil ever been changed arm next question I i.e. I shouting it has no I got a new size I gather that the first because you know how when you when you're wearing a new engine get all the birds and allow the gunk of the 1000 so yummy at it suddenly felt a new new oil change at least once maybe after that but it hasn't had fresh oil employees about wild's 1415 months is done about 25,000 emails running that is not really denies this is the whole problem without work with this topic is not so it is this real-time White Sox having system of some try to get a common language yes 72,000 case which I think it would be around about 40,000 miles maybe 45,000 miles that's right 45,000 is roughly today my head so because I couldn't be bothered in my calculator and it's fine right okay cool title anyway so I want all the time now because I do stubbornly that that mess that is mass behind me and we wanted time and time is one of the weirdest ones right and it's weird because it goes on about metric and then non-stop the thing about time and and it annoys me and I'm getting old and I'm getting more annoyed stuff and assisted the light but here's the thing that bugs me 2000 BC the Egyptians they were the ones that set us on this course and they were the ones the first recorded culture okay maybe there was an unrecorded culture before that that did this developers record culture and they split the day and night into 12 equal segments but the problem was they didn't correct the seasons so each day and hour was slightly longer or shorter depending upon if you're heading to or away from next solstice right so it's like why would you do that that is so an hour was never an hour it is crazy but anyway alright so arm and sodium ideas of been lots of different definitions of time and the one eventually one was called down the MKS media kilograms second are and the other one was similar was some centigram centimetre gram second CGS and they define one second as one 86,400 of a mean solar day so Lisa got that right on an average day figure that out that's good to know that anyhow so in 19 but only 56 was redefined a fraction of a specific year because I was when I realised that an average day is an average day because an average day has an average year and you gotta have a leap year with an extra day to compensate because it's just a to get even more annoying octagon of that because I just got really irritating arm but MI6 was redefined in 1967 was a pivotal moment because they decided that they would do a measurement of how many transitions between the levels to levels of the ground the ground state of cesium at absolute zero or near absolute zero and a survey is the base for atomic clocks and if anyone really cares and if we don't hear is anyway arm hemi oscillations there were 9 billion hundred 92,631,770 periods of radiation and that is how you count one my leg and is easier members and so because arm you that wasn't the most accurate clocks that we can we we have our atomic clocks and so rather dwell on that his my problem is I have problem 86,400 seconds in a day 24 hours a day so that's 3600 seconds in our 60 minutes announced that 60 seconds a minute none of it is divisible by 10 not yet it's totally but you are I think the thing is that as ADR software developer arm one of the most frustrating things in the entire world is working on anything that relates to time because it just is impassable to get right and just earlier today arm I told I after sieving the government and I can have you put in the son of John Bird's are developer our evangelist and our Paul arm wrote a post about our athletic metal website that was basically every year. As your accountant calendar call fallacy is arm and searches goes through all these different things you assume to be true that a wrong sell your political fallacy is thinking decently to 6400 seconds on false interview in a place doesn't have delayed saving time which is perhaps uniquely American think you're subject to rogue leap seconds again inserted into encounters every now and then energy goes on and on and on diesel 24 hours on well not always an hour or whatever occur twice a single day while not always and et cetera et cetera et cetera it's just absolutely ridiculous and is a perfect example of why our doing anything that relates to time when your developer is just infuriating because there is almost no way to get it right you get close beyond the regular rate That exactly right and that's not even considering time zones which are even more frustrating and hourly as that does my head in and I and it is really frustrating and not the thing that term the other thing that was interesting is that some time is not is not met because my issue I guess I'd swing about the whole point of my issue of with time as their associate the rest was on metric and metric system cycle yet but time is not metric so as soon as you introduce time into any of your metric metric causation is it's no longer metric because you have to then have a weed asked conversion to go from seconds to minutes to hours to days so suddenly you're beautiful metric system just fell apart every time you relate to time Sony centimetres per 2nd km per hour miles mph leased as an imperial Imperial whereas you got. The size like I've I've I've deleted my metric goodness by adding in someone in an online metric measurements level off great that went well so is actually technically it's a server 160 of the something is referred as like a sexy gizmo system which you know depending upon the teenager an inside view could be interesting is the point is that that's weird it's not bystander and I get so anyway these blended measures and all-star because Egyptians aside to split daylight into 12 pieces because they just did and I don't know why and no one knows why this did why 12 110 it would have been just as meaningless anyway so and right so so is there an accepted decimal version of time that perhaps the scientific community community uses or is it just run around in the square since the thing is I'd I dug into this years ago and the thing that set me off digging into metric time because technically arm you write actually it's finally enough it is actually called decimal time as you said not not metric time because metric dear anyway but yes it is decimal time was acting episode of The Simpsons where arm was called they they save Lisa's brain was only like that and I was when demands of society took over Springfield and they said now the trains are running on time and they're running on metric time and he saw a clock with with what 1 to 10 on arm it's one 10 1/10 of an hour after whatever else was just ridiculous right that I say is ridiculous because I'm used to hours met seconds being being 6060 whatever but the truth is that no there isn't that there been a few suggestions of how could be done but nothing has ever taken off and I guess the problem is that was a whole bunch of problems that everything is based on the second and thinking about how hard it would be to change the definition of one second it's you can't call it the same thing anymore and if you did just imagine all the GPS satellites would be wrong all of our fines mobile phone synchronisation all that Woodward wouldn't work anymore all of our computers ending the real-time clock at which is practically everything that electronic these days I mean even my coffee machine is cycle time real-time clock in it that would be Yaris like you Howdy it's just if I was a mine site note I just keep thinking about the opportunity to fix the second has gone forever I think it is too hard now because everything is all based on a second and real-time clocks but in a man in a lot of other countries have reprimanded off successfully and gone from Imperial to metric obviously are the US felt pretty hard on that one but never an enemy will try again when one year maybe we can agree on a decimal year aren't so exact her arm that you anyway so that the finding of thing is how you draw a clock because arm you because if you look at normal clocks I wonder 12 or 1 to 24 I just got out a.m. military timeclock I guess arm or butt with the arm with that sexy gizmo bet you've got 60 so 60 increments on the outside but that wouldn't work anymore so to be Job 0 tend to attend to attend and you have to have some measure of arm decker seconds Hector seconds Kyllo seconds all year no kidding rightist it sounds hot it's a mouthful is just any finally end up with something like 4 kg seconds is the equivalent of 66.66 minutes or 1.11 hours and 96 killer seconds is 26.66 hours which is just over 24 hours and at that point is give up sake not too hard you that just does not sound fun at all and I think that it's it to your point of light of that just has to do with what you still but rather that just the only one think about asset so and and and you probably have to update expressions saves a higher cash and had a second that's about a minute and an McDonald's or Mac as is open arm 86 killer seconds seven because you because a 24 seven anymore anyway the mind that I am done with time like literally okay I'm I'm saving I think the best for last in a temperature because our people get very hot under the collar about this one I do deals just really back to being a product site so mightily down Chinese and much much much better job than I am giving you any credit terrible is it okay to take arm there are two dominant scales for temperature arm I think everyone popping those so we got Celsius or centigrade and I get that rain in a good one and and the good one was that Fahrenheit yet this is that I say yes okay no comment yet so Celsius was named after Anderson Celsius to honour him in 1948 but finally enough it was actually called centigrade before that are and centigrade Ashley make sense that what is centre meaning hundred and graders in a grade gradient so 100 grades arm so centigrade was equal intervals between zero hundred hours Celsius finally enough that the man himself developed a similar scale in the 1700s but there was one minor and really important difference it was back to front so zero was boiling point and 100 was pressing quite what I know and so there may name centigrade after Celsius but they actually did the scale the centigrade way around so I don't get it but anyway nevermind so the magnitude of a degree Kelvin is the same as that for a degree Celsius but Calvin was set defines absolute zero is -273.15C absolute zero million is no molecular movement and all the physics stuff great so that's the oddly odd but apparently supposedly better scale arm from the scientific community now Fahrenheit on the other hand arm how much you know about who cannot Fahrenheit dispute I would assume it's somebody whose surname is Fahrenheit and then because I assume that you're asking I was waiting for to be like I know there was a trick now is not progressing nicely really was Mr Fahrenheit yes Daniel Gabriel Fahrenheit and he proposed the scale where 0 was the temperature of an equal mixture of ice and salts which is readily available ingredients that you could put together and 100F would be the average human body temperature presumably when a person wasn't sick presumably however due to difficulties in accurately repeating some of those measurements in the 1900s it was re-refines redefined tweaks have you about where 32F was the freezing point of water and the boiling point of what was set to that 200 less awesome because as a mean sea level 1 atm of pressure and other stuff right so the whole scale is therefore hundred 80 apart for that that area of measurement now during the 1960s and I never realised had cut IMing is American and I knew I knew 32 are new to 12 I never did their mouth to realise 180 is a difference today I wasted a thing is that that's the resolution that makes the difference that is the thanks of June I Do 1960s most countries in the world except of course our beloved United States switched from Fahrenheit to Celsius as part of the Metra furcation got out that time arm of the units of measure racing but the thing is I thought about this right arm pragmatics all about what was the most was the practical applications of these things not so much the humanness and this is where I guess I need your help because honestly arm the problem with temperature is that when it comes to measuring how things feel for individuals with human beings how they feel which is really the better measure Celsius or Fahrenheit so there are you it's tough rates so arm I actually wrote and never published a blog post about this arm hundred 96 monthly months ago something like that are highly had gardening in my brain well and I still meant and I still think to this day that Fahrenheit is unequivocally the superior measure of ambient air temperature when you come conversing to ensure humans as they think you're alluding to in every other way I think that metric is better that Celsius centigrade however you to freeze it or if you really want to be bananas Calvin is the better approach anything that is not arts what's it feel like outside and the reason I feel this way is because I feel like Fahrenheit just really really eloquently splits into tender rebounders so anything less than 30 it's really freaking cold 30 to 40 it's pretty cold you definitely need a winter coat 40 to 50 you need is a serious jacket but maybe not something you would absolutely describe as coconut something that quite 1 to 50 are getting into this is okay whether 60 to 70 really guide 70 to 80 probably perfect especially this just get that nice little Gaelic summertime breeze going north of EDU getting into really hard so any 90 are you getting into uncomfortable arm and for the wreck of room temperature is usually between 70 and 72 and that neck of the woods so above and above median heart above 90 unequivocally heart about 100 you need to move because that's like Australia for example coming Andrea and the whole DA is exactly right in so because of that idyllic there there and I probably am I doing the best job cannibalising his different bands with the ideas in most places in the United States most of the time you Walmart and someone will probably rake John Remy and tell me how wrong I am bite in in in most places you will typically get too much below 30 now somewhere like Minnesota which is the very type United States can be well below 30 large slice of time but the average America doesn't get too much authority does get too much bother 9200 generally speaking and sell like I said in his 10 increments of the drilling expanse and I feel like there you can see how all the difference between a couple of degrees so if you're in your car in use at what we would call your air-conditioning array see what I presume you to call Eric on and if you said that to 72 that might be a little too cold but 73 may be just rate and I am being flip intracellular really being serious and I wrote this whole post about how this is clearly the way clearly the way to do anything else is just silly hundred is the maximum comfort level of any regular human being in zero is the minimum that you could survive without putting on weight Arctic explorer where sick of this perfect 100 scale that kind of like a percentage of how nice it is and again room temperature is about 70 in writing this by post however I did the conversions from 20F you whatever the equivalent is in Celsius from 30 to whatever the equivalent is from 42 of the equipment is the truth of the matter is around it would it was roughly 5C for each of my 10F bands and it was in writing a post that it occurred to me that the reason I hate a heat Celsius so much modesty reasons why nothing is absolutely ridiculous to need a decimal point but to arm it's because I'm not used to it and as much as I will defend Fahrenheit to the death because I do think the ambient air temperature alone it is the much more a much more reasonable scale if I had grown up with Celsius I don't think I'd mind too much I still think it's crazy. It's it's weird I should say is a better word for it is weird to see a decimal point aunt see a car is air-conditioning yellow Iona want 2001 20.5 thank you very much bite other than that I I would assume that you're about to tell me that my tender rebounders are roughly a 5 bounces that fair well yeah auntie I think you might just be surprised actually because I arm when I okay so lists the way I look at this is the liveable ranger and you can't frog touched on is quite a bit is that I'd say roughly between 50C and 35C and a sort of most temperate or subtropical or tropical regions of the world would sit somewhere in that band most of the year as there daytime temperatures or the temperature that you have in an office building aura or house so your your dwelling or whatever else less of your the temperature range yes there will be colder yes there will be hotter depending upon if you live in like you said Nevada PASS OUT WESTERN IN AUSTRALIA OR ARM WHETHER NOT YOU LIVE ON TOP OF THAT IN ASPEN WHO LIVES IN ASPEN ARE HIGHER THAN THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS ARE AND SUCH BUT SOME THAT THAT THAT'S IN FAHRENHEIT IS BETWEEN 60F AND 95F AND IF YOU DO THE MATHS IT'S BECAUSE THAT'S SCALE IT'S ROUGHLY UNTIL ONCE IT IS 40 INCREMENTS AND FAHRENHEIT OVER THE TEMPERATURE RANGE BUT IN CELSIUS IS ONLY 20 INCREMENTS OVER THAT RANGE AND THAT THAT LEVEL OF OF RANGE PRECISION AND A RESOLUTION IN THE LIVEABLE RANGE MAKES IT FAR EASIER TO DESCRIBE ARE EXACTLY LIKE THIS I SAY LOW 20S OR SO LOW 30S OR HIGH 30S IT MEANS ARM THERE IS A SUBTLE MESSAGE THAT IS CONVEYED IN THAT BECAUSE OF THAT RESOLUTION WHEREAS YVONNE TALKING IN IN CELSIUS AND I SAY IT'S LOW 30S WHICH IS, GETTING WARM TO HIGH 30S IT'S LIKE THAT'S GETTING SCORCHING HOT AND WAS STILL AN OLD UNITED WERE DOWN DOING THESE CONVERSIONS AS YOU'RE TALKING TO 30C AND FAHRENHEIT IS 86 WHICH I WOULD DESCRIBE AS GETTING INTO SERIOUS DISCOMFORT MAY FORM IT GETS IT'S DEFINITELY HEART IT'S DEFINITELY HEAVENLY HEART BUT YOU COULD BE OUTSIDE WITHOUT YELLOW AND AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT RUNNING AMERICANA SOMETHING AND BE OKAY HE HAD ALREADY DEGREES CELSIUS HOWEVER YOU BECOME EXACTLY 40C AS 100 AND 504 AUSTRALIA SPEAKING FAHRENHEIT AND THAT'S REALLY FREQUENT HEART LIKE YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE OUTSIDE OF YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE AT 104 ARE DEFINITELY NOT KNOW EXACTLY RIGHT AND THAT THE THING IS IT'S THE RESOLUTION AND AND ANOTHER THING THAT SHE HAD ON AND THERE WAS THE DECIMAL POINT LIKE THE HALF A DEGREE ON ARMS IN THE AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM OF THE ECONOMY/WE DECLARE COMPANY ARM YES BUT THE THING IS AS A CONTROLS AS IT CONTROLS OUR PROGRAMMER AND I'VE WORKED WITH OKAY SATELLITE FIGHT BUT SERIOUSLY HOW CAN YOU CONTROL THE ENTIRE Temperature OF YOUR VEHICLE TO WITHIN HALF A DEGREE CELSIUS OR EVEN 1F REALLY IS SAY THE SAME MEASUREMENTS OF HOW HOW IS IT EVEN POSSIBLE TO ACCURATELY DO THAT CONSISTENTLY AND THE ANSWER IS IT'S NOT LIKE THAT YOUR TARGET TEMPERATURE AND IS NOT A VERY PLUS OR -1 2F OR CELSIUS SO WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO GO AT HALF TO GREG HALF DEGREES CELSIUS SINCE INCREMENTS OR EVEN 1F IN INCREMENTS WAGES GO UP AND EVEN NUMBERS YELLOW 50 5254 BECAUSE YOU BEING DISINGENUOUS IN THE PERSON DRIVING A CAR IS LIKE YES MY CAR CAN ACCURATELY PREDICT DO GO TO FIND DECIMAL PLACES IN TEMPERATURE AND CONTROL NOTECARDS CAN'T IS NOT POSSIBLE TO PITCH PITCH AND ANSWER THE QUESTION EVEN I THINK YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT I THINK SOME OF THAT IS PLACEBO EFFECT SO I'VE TURNED IT DOWN THUS IT WILL GET COLDER AND THUS I MUST FEEL BETTER ALREADY ALSO IT IT'S GIVING A HINT TO THE NOW SOFTWARE IN THE CAR THAT WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IT'S EITHER TOO MUCH OR NOT ENOUGH SO IF IT'S OUR SUMMER DAY AND I TURN THE TEMPERATURE DOWN FROM 73 TO 72 IN MY CAR THAT'S A HINT TO THE SOFTWARE RUNNING YOUR KIND IN THE CAR YOU NEED TO DO MORE OF WHATEVER IT IS YOU'RE DOING BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT THE HUMAN YOU HAVE A SQUISHY OCCUPANT INSIDE ONCE MORE AIR-CONDITIONING TO COME OUT OF THE VATS AND SO I AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT'S PROBABLY NOT MAKING AN EMPIRICAL DIFFERENCE IN IN MEASURED AIR TEMPERATURE IN THE AREA MAY BE JUST ABOUT THE SAME BUT IS GIVING A HINT TO THE COMPUTER I WANT MORE PLEASE NOTE THAT THAT IS A GOOD TIME AND I GUESS I YET IT IS A FEEDBACK CONTROL OVER RIGHT SO THAT'S THE WAY I SAT LEG SO THAT THE WAY THAT IT MAY BE IMPLEMENTED MAYBE BUSINESS MAY BE DISSOLVING MORE SUBTLETY TO OBTAIN ANY CASE I TAKE YOUR POINT I ALSO THINK IT'S RIDICULOUS THAT YOU HAVE .5 OF A DEGREE CELSIUS AS AN OPTION RUNNING AS CRAZY MIGHT MY JAZZ OR HONDA FIT WHATEVER ARM IT ONLY GOES UP IN FULL DEGREES CELSIUS INCREMENTS AND DUMP YOUR WORK INTERESTING POINTS IS FINE ARM WHEREAS MY OTHER CARDS AS A TOYOTA AND IT GOES UP AND .5 NIGHT EVERY TIME I DO LIKE REALLY SERIOUSLY ALL BUMPED UP HALF A DEGREE CELSIUS ALL RIGHT SO I THINK THE POINT OF IT IS OBVIOUSLY TO RATTLE ALL THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT METRIC AND IMPERIAL IS IT COMES BACK TO THE FACT THAT IT IS WHAT YOU USED TO SHORE AND PEOPLE SAY WHAT'S BETTER AND THE TRUTH IS IT IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT'S BETTER IT'S ABOUT CONSISTENCY AND IN TERMS OF WHAT'S BETTER AND WORSE HONESTLY I DON'T THINK I THINK THAT METRIC DOESN'T MAKE ANY MORE OR LESS SENSE THAN IMPERIAL DOES ALL THAT MATTERS IS THAT WE CANNOT EASILY CONVERT BETWEEN DIFFERENT UNITS OF MEASURE AND IMPERIAL MAKES THAT MORE DIFFICULT AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES METRIC BETTER IN THOSE RESPECTS BUT THE WORD FALLS DOWN IS THE CHOICE OF THAT SCALE IN THE RESOLUTION OF THAT SCALE AND ALL THE OTHER MEASUREMENTS ON BOND WITH YOU CASEY I THINK THAT HONESTLY TEMPERATURE IS FOR A HUMAN ARM LIVABILITY IS BETTER REPRESENTED IN HAPPEN FAHRENHEIT AND THAT SIMPLY BECAUSE THE RESOLUTION IS BETTER BUT THAT SAID IN A NOTE WE'VE ALREADY GONE TO CELSIUS SELLING THE WORLD TO GO WRONG GO BACK TO FAHRENHEIT IS GONNA BE A TOUGH SELL I WOULD RECOMMEND IS WHEN YOU ASKED ME TO COME ON THE SHOW ARE I THINK EVERYTHING IS THAT YOU REALLY YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU WANTED IS NOT ABOUT EVERYTHING I SAID HE WAS WELL KNOW HOW INTERESTING I'LL BE BECAUSE THE REAL DIRTY SECRET IS YOU KNOW ESPECIALLY HAVING BEEN EDUCATED AS AN ENGINEER I THINK THAT METRIC IS FAR AWAY A MUCH BETTER SYSTEM FOR EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN AS I SAID BEFORE EXCEPT AMBIENT AIR TEMPERATURE IN HAVE ANY PARTICULAR LOVE FROM PURELY IMPERIAL UNITS I THINK IT'S REALLY RIDICULOUS THAT THE UNITED STATES IS SO SOFT SOUTH STORY OR AN HOUR PUSHY THAT WE INSIST ON USING IMPERIAL UNITS WHEN THE REST OF THE PLANETS USES MAGICALLY IT'S JUST IT'S BARBARIC OF US HOWEVER I WILL STAND BY FAHRENHEIT TO THE TIPS OF THE DOUBT THAT NA WILL HOPEFULLY HAVE YOU PUT IN THE SHOW NOTES A WONDERFUL CHART OR A GRAPHIC PICTURE THAT HAS FLOWED AROUND THE INTERNET PROBABLY 85 TIMES BUT IT REALLY SUMMARISES THE THAT THE TEMPERATURE ARGUMENT AND I'M CLINGING TO THE SO STRONGLY BECAUSE BY HAVE NO ARGUMENT FROM METRIC R AGAINST METRIC IN ANY OTHER WAY ARE IT SAYS FAHRENHEIT 0 200 VERSUS TO A CELSIUS 0 TO 100 WAS CALVIN'S. 100 AND ARM FAHRENHEIT 80 WAS LABELLED AS REALLY COLD OUTSIDE HUNDRED IS LABELLED AS REALLY HARD OUTSIDE PERFECT CELSIUS ZERO FAIRLY COLD OUTSIDE HUNDRED DEGREES AND DAD IS KELVIN 0 DAD 100 DEAD PEASANTS THOUGH IT'S IT'S IT'S A SILLY CHART GRAPH AND EVERYONE CALL IT ARM AND AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY MEANT IN JAZZ BUT I REALLY DO THINK THAT THERE IS SOME AMOUNT AS WITH ALL GOOD JOBS AND SOME OTHER TRUTH BEHIND IT AND THAT JUST AS YOU SAID JOHN I THINK IN MANY WAYS A GIVEN SEASON SOMETHING THAT IN MANY WAYS IT DOES COME DOWN TO SCALE NOTHING TO FAHRENHEIT HAS A REALLY GOOD SCALE THAT'S ANCHORED IN A REAL IN A COUPLE OF REALLY GOOD SMARTS THAT MAKES A REALLY REALLY GREAT FREE AMBIENT AIR TEMPERATURE YOU WANT TO MEASURE THE TEMPERATURE OF THE OIL IN YOUR CAR IN CELSIUS HAVE ADDED THAT PROBABLY MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE BUT YOU WANT TO TELL ME WHAT THE CITY AIR-CONDITIONING TO ALTEC FAHRENHEIT PLEASE YES AND THAT THE OTHER THING ABOUT IMPERIAL IS THAT ARM IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE I.E. I THOUGHT THE WHOLE WORLD IS LIKE GEOMETRIC METRIC ALL THE WAY AND I CAME ACROSS THIS ARTICLE A WHILE BACK ARM THAT SPURRED ME ON TO WANT TO DO THIS EPISODE AS WELL IS NOW PEOPLE ASKING ME TO COVER IT IN 2007 ARM OF THE EUROPEAN COMMISSION ABANDONED THEIR REQUIREMENT FOR METRIC ONLY LABELLING ON PACKAGED GOODS AND THAT OPEN THE DOOR AGAIN FOR BOTH DUAL LABELLING SO METRIC AND IMPERIAL LABELLING ON THEIR GOODS SINCE THAT SINCE THAT TIME SO IT'S NOT THE END OF OF IMPERIAL EXACTLY AND I IT IS INTERESTING THAT IMPERIAL CAN STILL HAVE A PLACE AND IS HONESTLY OUR METRIC IS NOT BECAUSE BECAUSE ARGUS HAD BEFORE MY BIGGEST FRUSTRATIONS METRIC AS THEY DIDN'T TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESET THE SECOND ARM MIND YOU MIND YOU HAD THEY DONE NOW CAN YOU IMAGINE A WORLD WHERE THE REST OF THE WORLD IS ON OUR DECIMAL SECONDS AND THE STATES IS ON IMPERIAL SECONDS ARE NOW GRIEF NOW PLEASE NOW I'M IN A DANGEROUS AREA COMES YOU'RE PROBABLY RATE THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS BUT EITHER JUST SOUNDS TERRIBLE KNOWLEDGE FOR HOW THE UK WORKS BECAUSE I HAVE WATCHED AND IN NORTHERN AMOUNT OF TOP GEAR AND IN MY DAY AND I FEEL LIKE THE DEAL MEASURE OF SPEED IS OFTEN TIMES IN MPH AND IN DISTANCES SOMETIMES IN MYLES WHERE MIGHT MY LIMITED UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THE KEYWORDS THAT IS ALL METRIC EXCEPT IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS DID YOU NOT EXACTLY WHAT ANY IDEA IS IN IS AUSTRALIA LIKE THAT SINCE YOU ARE ANOTHER ICON ARE COLONY I GET IT IS IS IT ALL IS ALL METRIC READ OSIRIS DISTANCES ARE ALWAYS KILOMETRES'S BEDROLL SQUANDERS AN HOUR THE THING WITH US COLONIES WRITERS WE ALSO GO OFF ON OUR SEPARATE WAYS IN THE END SO I HAVE ISOLATE GIVES THE MIDDLE FINGER THE CASE IS NOT ONE OF YOUR OWN COUNTRY BUT BY AND ARM COUNTERS LIKE YEAH WE, A BIT FRENCH MCIVOR BIT YOU KNOW BUT WE ALSO AND THEN ACROSS AUSTRALIA IS LIKE THEY DONE LOOK AT US BUT ANYWAY SO I'M OKAY SO FOR US THE WEIRDEST THING IS YES WE ARE WE ARE FULL METRIC BUT YOU WILL STILL HEAR BABY WEIGHTS CALLED OUT IN POUNDS AND OUNCES SO WHEN A NEW BABY ARISES THEY'LL STILL GET OUT THERE AND WHEN PEOPLE HEIGHT AND THEY ARE TOLD LIKE FOR EXAMPLE I'M ON 511 SO ARM IT'S LIKE I'M ON: 5I BUT MY DRIVER'S LICENSE IS IN CENTIMETRES BUT YOU CAN TELL PEOPLE YOUR HEIGHT IN FEET AND INCHES AND THEY STILL UNDERSTOOD THAT SALE PECULIARLY NICELY AND IN THE MINING INDUSTRY AND SADDAM AND OIL AND GAS INDUSTRIES WE GET A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT WE WE USE FROM AMERICA SO OF COURSE NOT SURPRISINGLY IT IS IN IMPERIAL SO WE NEED TO LEARN YOU OF HOW MUCH DOWNHOLE PRESSURE AS THEIR SOLACE IN FOOT-POUNDS AND MIKE IS AND WHY IT IS NOT NEW CREATOR IT'S LIKE SO BECAUSE WE TRADE OUR WITH AMERICA LOSS THEN WE WE HAVE TO LEARN SOME OF THOSE BASES WE CAN'T BE COMPLETELY IGNORANT OF OF IMPERIAL BUT IN TERMS OF OFFICIAL OFFICIAL IT'S METRIC BUT WHEN IT COMES TO CARS ALTHOUGH THE GABA SPEEDOS ON OUR CAR ARM THAT THE DIAL IS ALREADY IN KILOMETRES AND COMMS BROW #NOW IN THE IN THE UK I BELIEVE THAT ARM THE DAY ARM THEIR VEHICLES WILL HAVE TO THE TWO RANGES ON THE NIGHT MPH AND A COMMS BROW ON THE INNER TRACK ON THE OTHER TRACK OF THE OF THE GAUGE AND I THINK THAT THE NETTLES LOCATION OF AN ENCOUNTER SO I LIVE IN CARDIFF TONIGHT YEARS AND WHEN I WAS THERE THAT WAS MY CAR HAD AND DOWN THE OTHER THING ABOUT THE CANDIDATES ODD IS THAT ARM COUNTERS AS YOU ARE FULLY METRIC AND THEN YOU GO ON ARM GET A BOTTLE OF FARM OF DIET COKE OR PEPSI MAX OR WHATEVER THEY WANT TO RENT EITHER WAY THIS MATTER AND DUMP AN INSPECTION IT IN FLUID OUNCES CIRCA 1212 OUNCE AND 16 OUNCE BOTTLE, WOW THAT'S OKAY WHEN WHAT WAS GOING ON HERE AND THEN I PICKED UP THIS ARM THIS SUB- SQUARE OF BYLINE IT'S LIKE 454 G MUCH LESS OF DELIVERY ROUND NUMBER ARM WHY AND IT'S LIKE THAT'S A FRACTION OF ABOVE POUNCE RIGHT SO IT'S LIKE CLOSE BUT NO CIGAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ANYWAY YOU GET IT IT'S A BIT STRANGE AND MAYBE IT CAN TAKE A FEW MORE GENERATIONS AND AND AS AS US OLDIES GET MORE OLD ARE OLDER THEN YOU KNOW ALL THOSE THINGS WILL EVENTUALLY FADE AND THE NEWBORNS WILL BECOME COME OUT AT SOME 2880 G AND BE LIKE EITHER AS A CHARACTER HEARING WELCOME TO OLD AND NOW I COMPLAIN BUT YOU KNOW IT'S IT'S STRANGE HOW WORKS ARE HOUSE OUTCOME COME TO PASS AND IT'S BEEN A GOOD 6070 YEARS SINCE THE TRANSITION AND YET THE IMPERIAL MEASUREMENTS CAN STILL BE FOUND QUITE QUITE EASILY SO IT'S INTERESTING WHAT WAS IN OREGON ALL THE MEDIA GETS SHIPPED OVERSEAS FOR BETTER OR WORSE AND SO YOU PRESUMABLY YOUR HEARING YOU JUST CASUAL THINGS IN MOVIES OR PERHAPS MUSIC OR TV SHOWS WHERE THEY SAY YOU KNOW THAT THE KAISER IS HUGE AT 350 WHATEVER THE CASE HEALING EVENTUALLY I WOULD IMAGINE JUST BY QUARTER CALLED OSMOSIS RETAINER WAS NOT REALLY SURE THERE'S GOOD ANYWAY BY OSMOSIS IMAGES CAN PICK IT UP OVER TIME I WOULD IMAGINE THEN MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE A GOOD FEEL FOR 350 VERSUS 320 VERSUS 300 BUT YOU WOULD AT LEAST NOW I WOULD ASSUME THAT IF YOU HEAR THAT A HUMAN BEING 70 THEY ARE NOT ON THE SMALLER SIDE HAVE NOTHING ELSE YOU KNOW MY DO SO ABSOLUTELY RIGHT AND SO FOR EXAMPLE IT SHOW TITLES LIKE ARM MY WIFE SOMETIMES WATCH A SHOW CALLED MY 600 LIFE IS LIKE YOU HEY ARM I GET THE PICTURE THOUGH IT'S LIKE VERY HEAVY NOT GOOD ARM AND BECAUSE THERE'S OTHER GENERATIONS LIKE ALCOHOL 9 YARDS IN A CYCLE OF THE ARTICLE IS 09 M AND ARE ANOTHER ONE I CAME ACROSS WITH WEIGHT WAS SOME ART WAS ABOUT 50 AND IT'S LIKE WHAT'S APOCALYPTIC IN TERMS OF INVENTORS AWAIT MEASUREMENT IN ONE OF ITS LIKE HUNDRED 50 YOU AWARE THAT COMES FROM AND YOU DON'T HEAR THAT OFTEN BUT YOU CERTAINLY HERE AND OFTEN ANOTHER YOU KNOW WHAT IT MEANS IT EDITS COMING BACK TO TOP GEAR LEG IMAGINE WHEN I FIRST STARTED WATCHING IT WAS MY FIRST REAL EXPOSURE TO TRADITIONAL BRIT MUM IN A TRADITIONAL EXPORT WAS ONCE BUT I GO DOWN STEREOTYPICAL MODERN BRITISH CULTURE YOU I IMAGINE HOW LONG IT TOOK ME TO UNDERSTAND ACQUITTED VERSES ARE A POUND VERSUS R WAS THIS A COUPLE OTHER EUPHEMISM GRANTED TO SEE WHETHER WE HAVE WHILE THEY LARGELY QUIT QUIT AS A POUND AND ENDED IN A DINNER POUNDS A POUND AND THERE IS A JOSHUA CAMERON IS NOT A SOUTHERLY COLLOQUIALISM IN THE SAME WAY THAT WE HAVE A BIKE AS A DOLLAR A DOLLAR IS A DOLLAR ARM GUINEAS AND OF COURSE THE CEILINGS GENERATE FOR YOU BUT ARM JUSTLY IN THE VARIOUS EUPHEMISMS FOR A POUND OR IN OUR CASE THERE IS HIS EUPHEMISMS FOR A DOLLAR IN LJ FOR EXAMPLE A BARK LIKE A BIKE THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY EVEN VAGUE RELATION TO THE WORD DOLLAR YET THAT'S A DIAL AND SO SOME OF THOSE SORTS OF THINGS YOU KNOW THAT I'VE LEARNED BIKE AGAIN DEFINITIVELY SPEAKING OSMOSIS JUST BY BEING EXPOSED THERE ARE MEDIA YOU AND AND IS ONLY FOR EXAMPLE AUSTRALIA WE DON'T HAVE 1/4 DOLLAR) HAVE A $0.25 PIECE ARM WE OUTWEIGH CITIES YOU GUYS GOT QUARTERS SO PERSON I HAD WAS THE ONLY COIN THAT TOGETHER THE COIN THE COINAGE HERE IS BARBARIC AND ANOTHER THING THAT WE GET WRONG AND WE HAVE WE HAVE SINGLE ARE SAINTS WHICH ARE PENNIES WE HAVE FIVE CENTS WHICH NICHOLS TENSES WHICH ARE TIMES QUARTER QUARTER DOLLAR IS 1/4 AND THAT'S THE STUFF YOU SEE REGULARLY WITH THE FACT THE MATTER IS ANYTHING LESS THAN ONE AMERICAN DOLLAR IS BASICALLY JUST SPLIT HAIRS AT THAT POINT IN WHICH WE SHOULD GET AWAY WITH COINAGE ENTIRELY BY WAY OF A COUNTRY HOUSE NEAR BRITAIN HAS WANTING TO POUND COINS AT WHICH AGAIN I FORGET THE TERM FORUM ARM AND DOES MAKE SENSE YOU CAN ACTUALLY BUY SOMETHING WITH IT WITHOUT YOUR IDOLATRY WERE POUNDED TO USE MICE (NEVER MIND ONCE A PRACTICE THAT HAPPENING: NO NOT GOING THERE BUT YUMMY IN AUSTRALIA ON GOING AND COINS I KNOW THAT WAS A LITTLE NOT NOT EXACTLY ON THE TOPIC BUT IT'S IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE IN AUSTRALIA WE WE IDENTIFIED THAT ONCE TWO CENTREPIECES WERE POINTLESS ABOUT OUR 15 EASIER WE GOT RID OF THEM HAVE MANY MORE SALES JAILHOUSE COIN IS A FIVE SWIG OF FIVE CENT PIECE ARE A $0.10 PIECE $0.20 $0.50 AND THEN YOU GO UP TO 1 DOLLAR COIN AND A TWO DOLLAR COIN AND ARM ANY WORKS OKAY I PIE I STILL THINK THE COINAGE FOR ONE AND TWO DOLLARS FINE AND AFTER THAT NO GLYCOLIC THE UK WITH 12 DOLLAR PER POUND AND ALSO IN CANADA WHICH IS KIND OF HILARIOUS BECAUSE IN CANADA ONE DOLLAR AND TWO DOLLAR COINS ARE CALL THE LOONY FOR ONE DOLLAR AND ATTORNEY FOR TWO DOLLARS BECAUSE IT'S TOO LOONY SUMS ATTORNEY WHAT THE HELL IS ATTORNEY I GET WHAT A LOON IS A LOON IS THE NAME OF THE DARK ON ON THE FRONT OF THE ONE DOLLAR COINS IS AN AIRPORT RIGHT IN VANCOUVER AND MASON AND I NEEDED MONEY TO MAKE A PHONE CALL BECAUSE I MISSED MY FLIGHT FIRST TIME IN CANADA NEVER HEARD ANYTHING BEFORE AND I'M SITTING THERE AND SAY DO YOU HAVE ANY CHANGE FOR THIS VIVONEX IRON NOTES ARE 5.89 SLR ARM I DON'T HAVE ANY HERE I'LL JUST ASK THIS LADY OVER THERE DO YOU HAVE ANY LOONIES OVER THERE AND MIGHT YOU HAVE ANY 181 AND SO ANYWAY FINALLY I GOT MY LOONY AND I WENT MADE A PHONE CALL BUT GUESS THAT THE LOON ON THE FRONT YES ONE LOON TO LOONIES IS ATTORNEY IS LIKE OKAY IT'S COMICAL BUT YET AFTER THAT ALL NOTES NOTES ALL THE WAY AND DUMP THEM IN PENNIES UP YOUR F WHATEVER WRITING EXACTLY THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT YOU GUYS GET RATE THAT WE DON AS A RELEASE THE UK ANYWAY IS ALL IN ON NINE ARM ARE NFC PAYMENTS AND AND YOU KNOW ARE DOING PAYMENT BY THE PHONE IN AND THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING YOU SEESAWED UP HERE YOU ACTUALLY DO SEE THAT USE THE APPLE PAYOUT MARKERS AS IT TURNS OUT LATER WE NOT REALLY GET INTO THAT THERE IS MUCH AS HE IS A PRESUMED AUSTRALIAN SUDDENLY THE UK DOESN'T MAKE THE SUPER JEALOUS AND IN FACT I CARRY HOUSE ARMY ALWAYS ARM AND I AM ONE OF THE ONLY PEOPLE I KNOW THAT STILL DOES PREMATURE EVERYONE HERE WILL USE CREDIT CARDS EXCLUSIVELY AND ARE NFC ARE PASSABLE AND AND I AM A WEIRDO FROM CARRYING ANY AMOUNT OF CASH WHILE YOU ARE NIGHT I DON'T CARRY CASH MY WALLET ANYMORE THIS TWO REASONS ARM ONE I DON'T HAVE TO BECAUSE OF GOT MY APPLE PANEL, CARDS AND A SECOND REASON IS IT MONEY AND ENTERS MY WALLET MY WIFE HAS A MONEY DETECTOR AND THEN SHE REMOVED FROM THE WALL AND THE HOLY GHOST TO LEVELS OF PRAYER OF SOAP THAT'S FINE ARM ANYWAY RIDING MY WRAPUP IS LISTENING US TO QUICKLY NOW KNOW THIS IS OUR LOWEST LOWER THAN A THYROID DEALER WHICH IS A GOOD THING IN AA I'M GLAD THAT WE AGREE ABOUT MARINADE BECAUSE RG HONEST I WASN'T THERE WERE THERE WERE NO OTHER HILLS I WAS PLANNING ON GOING ON AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE YOU ACQUIESCED EASILY ON UNDER OUR NEAR TEMPERATURE SCALES I APPRECIATE I WAS OKAY ARM I HONESTLY DO BELIEVE THAT OUR FAMILY AIR TEMPERATURE FAHRENHEIT IS A FAR MORE GRANULAR IN AN ALL CONVERTIBLE SCALE ARM BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT IT'S NOT IT'S FROM MY POINT OF VIEW I'M STUCK WITH CELSIUS AND FROM YOUR POINTER YOU'RE STUCK WITH WITH FAHRENHEIT ALL THE WAY DOWN SO IT'S NOT JUST FAMILY AND SO YOU WIN IN THAT RESPECT AND THEN YOU LOSE IN YOUR AREA OR SITE OUT AVERAGES AND OTHERS NOT OF JUSTICE AND THAT'S TRUE BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO TALK MORE ABOUT THIS YOU CAN REACH ME ON TWITTER AND JOHN CG ARE IF YOU'D LIKE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH CASEY WAS THE BEST WAY TO FIND IN TOUCH WITH THE SHORE ARE PROBABLY BASSWOOD WOULD BE ON TWITTER I AM AT KESEY LESS CAS CYL ISR SEE YOU CAN ALSO FIND SOME OF MY ER RATING ARM HIS SOLICITOR CALMLY AND I MEANT I AM 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